Servant Of The Light.

Salaams Nur,

does desire fit into the context of all the salaat verses of the quran?

Salaam,

Salat is your desire, or more exactly the closely following through of your desire, to perform the divinely-appointed purpose, which is defined as the objective within the context of the Qur’an (so the following of guidance closely), in practice this broadly means the establishment of a System that facilitates the following of Divine Commands (this being your driving desire if you are a true Muslim), it means, to understand your methods and be conscious of your intentions, it means, to carry out correct action without difficulty, or resentment, without seeking praise nor reward from anyone or power.

Apply this conceptual understanding to the verses, and judge for yourself, as only you can establish any belief within yourself through reason.

Salaams Br,

why can't it be counsel?

example;

4:102
When thou (O Messenger) art with them, and standest to lead them in counsel, Let one party of them take up with thee, Taking their arms with them: When they have submitted, let them Take their position in the rear. And let the other party come up which hath not yet taken counsel - and let them take counsel with thee, Taking all precaution, and bearing arms: the Unbelievers wish, if ye were negligent of your arms and your baggage, to assault you in a single rush. But there is no blame on you if ye put away your arms because of the inconvenience of rain or because ye are ill; but take (every) precaution for yourselves. For the Unbelievers Allah hath prepared a humiliating punishment.

isn't it counsel a leader undertakes on the actions to take or procedure to follow at times of fighting?

counsel is one thing you do all the time a school meeting or even a meeting in a bank to learn from the knowledge or experiences of one another so we take the best of actions for the benefit of people.

look around the way of our lives this is something done in all places especialy the advancing nations but is lacking in the backward people, the people in turmoil.



Regards.

Salaam,

as I said, its not desire, nor council, its a concept, I used desire as a label rather than a synonym to Salat, both council or desire would apply as they both form aspects of the concept, in any council each expresses their own desires.

The concept is the real thing to understand, and it can have no single word exchange.

I know you are saying it's a concept but how about petition as lanes is saying.
http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume4/00000444.pdf



I think Moses petitioned for the release of his people from their captivity who were then finally released as a lot of the people got on his side- though pharoah didn't like it.

Of course a petition can be in many different forms and it would be a peacable force propelling people towards something.

Ghandi used it and Nelson Mondella, Polish shipyard workers but it has its uses on smaller scales no doubt.

Smaller scale,
To make people pay their taxes we would need first of all to start paying ourselves and no doubt we would be nodging others to do like wise or make them face the consequances - may be!

Salaam Zahid,

taxation in all its many shapes and sizes, no matter the intentions of the collectors of any taxation upon the population, is and always would be Riba, or usury in English, the formation of any system that requires this form of subjugation of the population is against Islam's very fundamental concepts.

The mind set of the requirement of any Sovereign, Moses to Muhammad, is also against Islam's fundamental concepts, you can have absolutely no sovereign, each person is responsible for his or her own decisions, so can not be compelled to act against their own judgements through subjugation.

There is no single word that would convey the concept of Salat in full, each of the words we have discuss is relevant but not exclusive.